Interview: John McAfee Answers Your Questions 239
by sosume
Do you still write code, perhaps for fun?
McAfee: I haven't written code in 20 years. In truth I was a terrible programmer. At all the companies I worked at I did everything within my power to avoid coding tasks. I was just good enough though to be able to spot the truly outstanding programmers. At McAfee I hired the best and then stayed out of their hair. If I had been responsible for even a tiny amount of code I fear we would never have gotten off the ground.
McAfee Antivirus
by AmiMoJo
Doesn't it bother you that your name is being used to peddle one of the worst anti-virus products on the market? Often it comes pre-installed on computers as a 30 day trial (crapware), with dire warnings flashed up in the event that the user fails to pay (scareware). The performance hit it brings is huge. Would you advise anyone else to name their product/company after themselves in this way?
McAfee: I haven't been involved with McAfee Ant-virus for 21 years. When I ran the company the software was the best and least intrusive on the market, and in 1991 we had 87% of the world market. What happened after I left was none of my doing. As to name association, I am a master at sullying my own name and, all things considered, being associated with the worst software on the planet ranks way down the pole. It's barely a blip in the ocean of associations - madman, paranoid, child molester, murderer, drug addict, unstable, liar, to name but a few.Thank god I'm 67 and will probably be too hard of hearing soon enough to have to listen to them rattling around wherever I go. Amy, thankfully, did half the job already by bursting my left eardrum when she tried to shoot me in the head while I slept back in 2011.
What was the problem?
by lazylion
If I understand correctly, this whole episode began because a local politician visited you in your home and he had the expectation (for whatever reason) that you would pay him USD $30,000 as some kind of protection money for his campaign and your expectation was that politicians are supposed to work for people and not the other way around. Is this a reasonable characterization? If so, how do you think such a large missmatch in expectations came about? Do you think you were overly naive? Or is the political environment in Belize changing? I can easily believe that this might be the normal expected way that people do business down there based on other things I've heard, but I really have no idea. Now that you've had time to reflect, what would you say was responsible for the conflict in the first place?
McAfee: Had it been $30,000 I would have paid it in an instant, ushered him out and then returned to my task of molesting the underage girls (as some would characterize them) populating my property.However it was not. It was $2 million.I am not naive and I expect politicians and public servants, in all countries, to do one thing only - everything in their power to annoy, delay and inconvenience me. At least that has been my experience with public servants. Perhaps yours is different. In any case, two million was not even in a negotiating arena and, not being someone prone to wasting time, I told him to fuck off and not to come back.
German tourist disguise
by coldsalmon
Did you really evade the police by dressing up in a speedo and screaming at people in German, as you describe here?
McAfee: I favor disguises that change character rather than looks when running from the police. The German Tourist disguise was terrific. I looked exactly like me but no-one searching for me paid me any mind. Here is another common disguise I used that would work for any well known CEO.
What Happened with Vice.com?
by eldavojohn
While you were moving around, Vice.com got to spend time with you. If memory serves me, it was later revealed that the image they uploaded with you had GPS data that you then claimed to be spoofed. Coincidentally the news styled documentary they were going to do with you never seemed to surface ... now that things have died down can you give more context to that whole situation?
McAfee: Yes....... well...... The exif data attached to the photo was supposed to have been removed prior to putting it on-line. Rocco Castoro, the senior editor at Vice, and Robert King, the intrepid war photographer who has been shot twice in the ass and proudly shows the scars, accompanied me for 11 days of my escape. Good comrades and brave companions - not quite the balls that Samantha, who also accompanied me, swings, but brave lads nevertheless. We became fast friends. After our escape from Belize and our illegal entry into Guatemala, we were all four breathing sighs of relief and were in good cheer. I went back to Samantha's and my room for a few minutes to search Sam's luggage for weapons. There were too many good looking women at the hotel for my comfort. Samantha is extremely jealous and twice tried to stab me when she thought I was looking at another woman.In any case, I happily found no weapons and was about to return to the group when I heard a knock at the door. It was a very agitated Rocco. "Bad news" he said.
Chills ran up my spine as I imagined Samantha sweet talking the hotel security guard into lending her his gun after seeing me glance at the undulating derrière of a striking Peruvian woman an hour or so earlier.
He then told me about the location data accidentally included in the photo and that there were already posts on the Net showing google earth images of the hotel we were staying at.It didn't sound so bad to me really - not in comparison to an angry Samantha.It meant that Guatemalan soldiers had probably already been dispatched to arrest us and that we were on the run again - this time from a different authority, but we had at least a half an hour before the authorities arrived and taxis, which did in fact effect our escape, were plentiful. I didn't see a problem.
Robert was beside himself with agitation about the exif data because, as he correctly reasoned, people were going to think that he and Rocco did it on purpose so that they could get a better story by documenting my colorful arrest In Guatemala. To calm things down and to get everyone focused on our need to hastily scram, I told Rocco and Robert that I would take the fall and claim that I manipulated the exif data myself and they would be in the clear. Satisfied, they got packed, we left 10 minutes before the soldiers arrived, and i did what I said I would do.It was a stupid plan but it did clear the minds of the two journalists long enough to allowthem to function properly in the shaky circumstances.
When we got to Guatemala City that night and we were safely ensconced in a new hotel, Sam hit me in the head with an ashtray.She she had not missed the overlong glance at the Peruvian woman.I still have the scar.
What would you do differently?
by oic0
If you had to relive the whole debacle, what would you do differently the second time around.
McAfee: Absolutely nothing. Everything that has happened has brought me to this present moment - and not a bad moment at all. You may view my life as chaotic, tragic, comical, whatever. From where I sit it's a great adventure and an unending mystery. I have no complaints.
Why Portland?
by MAXOMENOS
Why did you decide to camp out in Portland for 18 months? What was it about Portland that brought you there?
McAfee: Why not Portland? Everyone here has bumper stickers reading "Keep Portland Weird!", there are 17 Asian restaurants within a three block radius of where I live, coffee here is a high art form and the police smile and are actually helpful - providing that no risks are involved.
A couple of subordinate reasons are that the gentleman producing the comic novel of my life (Chad Essley) and the screenwriter for the feature movie of the Belize incident both live here.
As a microbiologist...
by acidfast7
I'm very interested in hearing about the natural antibiotics. Can you please describe some general background about how you became interested in the project and what happened to the project?
McAfee: I became interested in quorum sensing (the means of communication favored by bacteria) the instant I heard about the concept. I hired a young Phd who had written the definitive paper on the subject - a young woman named Allison Adonicio - and set up a lab in the jungle to research anti-quorum sensing properties of tropical plants. You can read all about it at quorumex.com. Against all odds, the woman turned out to be crazier than myself. After a year and a half, the fractured elements of her psyche reassembled themselves into an exact likeness of a snarling ferret and she self destructed. She destroyed all of our research results, destroyed our bacteria samples, erased the hard drives of our computers, destroyed our carefully collect plant samples and went home to Boston. I cogitated the situation for a brief period, said "Fuck it!" And went into the coffee business. Thus was formed the New River Coffee Company.
Why George Jung?
by eldavojohn
"Boston George" Jung (a man who has lived quite an unusual life himself) has been tapped to write McAfee's biography titled, No Domain.
I don't get it. Jung is a convicted drug smuggler. You have had no such charges ever filed against you (to my knowledge) by the United States so, if nothing more than a publicity stunt, why did you pick him to write your biography? If you feel you are wrongly accused, I can understand why you would pick someone wrongly accused to write your biography -- they can relate. But George Jung was certainly a key part of Pablo Escobar's deadly and pervasive criminal organization. You are (again, to my knowledge) far from that so why bait the readers with that author as a link? I have had very little associations with you and illegal drug activity but now I think you view yourself as a modern George Jung, am I wrong in making this assumption?
McAfee: It's odd that people focus on the possibility that I might now be doing drugs (I'm not) and totally ignore the fact that from 1971 to 1982, 99% of my income came from smuggling and selling drugs. It's a well documented feature of my past life. I was also taking more drugs weekly than most of you will do in a lifetime, and I was a totally indiscriminate user. Whatever came across my desk went up my nose, down my throat, in my veins or up the nether region. I never reached the notoriety of George and my writing, in comparison to him, did not merit writing books about my exploits, but we were not so totally different, he and I. I had my right testicle shattered by a hammer in 1974 when I ran afoul of some local drug barons in Oaxaca. Its the size of a grape now and shaped like a small frisbee. I have been in Mexican jails on three separate occasions and, frankly, I cannot recommend them. I was arrested in Bristol Tennessee in 1971 and charged with felony possession of a dangerous narcotic. A good lawyer got me of. (I always, oddly had tons of money that helped integrate me slightly back into humanity and smooth my transgressions).
All this madness stopped in 1982 when my life disintegrated. I joined AA in 1982 and stopped drinking and drugging. If have not used any drugs, except for caffeine, nicotine and adrenaline, since.
In any case, George seemed perfect.
Interesting (Score:4, Informative)
Thanks for making the interview. Highly interesting to read. Didn't actually know that he's not involved with the antivirus vusiness anymore.
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Re:Interesting (Score:4)
Absolutely. I got tired of the whole murder story a long time ago. That said, this particular interview by itself is interesting.
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Re:Interesting (Score:4, Insightful)
Heck no, HairyFeet is known for his stance that if you are arrested or charged you must be guilty. He knows that all police and govt officials are honest saints that would NEVER made a bad decision..
Especially in a perfect democracy of honesty that is Beliese...
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I love it when you lose all self control and go full retard, you really show everyone that you are just the single biggest loser out there.
Re:Interesting (Score:4)
Maybe, but he's also an admitted drug smuggler, drug abuser, jokes about having sex with a compound full of children and people who associate with him seem to go crazy, self destruct and/or try to kill him.
Maybe he's innocent of the murder accusations. He's still more of a sociopathic clown than a hero.
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Didn't mean to moderate
Re:Interesting (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't believe we will ever know if he killed the guy or not. Is there really any credibility on either side of that debate? We can't do anything simply based on suspicion, otherwise there would be a whole lot more inoccent people in jail, on death row or already executed. So... let's just sit back and watch the show. Actually, given enough attention to his 'adventures' maybe he will one day slip up and tell about an adventure he had with a certain neighbor... If such a thing actually happened. Meanwhile.. there doesn't seem to be anyone acusing him of attacking random strangers so if you are afraid he will kill 'again' just don't associate with him.
Re:Interesting (Score:4, Insightful)
Meh. Regardless of what he did or didn't do, his adventures make for a hell of a lot more interesting read than coverage of Betty "Free Jahar" Crocker and his sidekick Speedbump, or Three Useless Girls Who Can''t Break Windows.
just because the guy is rich does NOT mean he should just walk away.
Absolutely not! And if the events described had taken place in the US or really any country without so much corruption that it refuses to even release enough information to rank them [plustvbelize.com], we'd have a much different story here, more OJ than Three Stooges. But as it stands, we have the story we have.
Re:Interesting (Score:4, Insightful)
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His comments from that time don't really mesh well with this:
"All this madness stopped in 1982 when my life disintegrated. I joined AA in 1982 and stopped drinking and drugging. If have not used any drugs, except for caffeine, nicotine and adrenaline, since. "
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At least while he was on bath salts he didn't go bat shit crazy like that nigger who overheated and thought he was a four legged predator and ate off most of a homeless guys face right down to bone and muscles.
That dude only had cannabinoids in his system so he was just truly fucking nuts.
Re:Interesting (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Interesting (Score:5, Insightful)
Just a suggestion, - check the WayBack(tm) machine for the interview of Alton Brown (of Good Eats fame).
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I'm curious why you like that interview so much; reading that is when I realized that that dude is nothing more than a talking head. Why do you think he needed the Internet to do commentary for Iron Chef America? IIRC he not only got a question about cooking with lava completely wrong, but he insulted the person asking as a way to avoid answering it. When Google failed him, he just bailed.
Re:Interesting (Score:5, Funny)
Didn't actually know that he's not involved with the antivirus vusiness anymore.
Disappointing.... Guess I'll start getting my A/V from Peter Norton instead.
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I'd like to ask the first question to Peter Norton as well.
I think he should sue Symantec for Defamation of Character.
Not involved with antivirus. (Score:2)
"Didn't actually know that he's not involved with the antivirus vusiness anymore."
But still not sure if we have less reasons to dislike the guy now or not.
Awesome (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Awesome (Score:4, Insightful)
Good call. Both bat-shit-crazy; both messed up with drugs, guns, and women; and both fine storytellers.
Re:Awesome (Score:5, Informative)
Maybe Hunter S. Thompson minus quality pharmaceuticals.
It should really be read as clear and convincing evidence that 'bath salts' are bad for you.
Re: Awesome (Score:3)
Yes, agree! This reminded me of reading Wired in the nineties, minus the fancy layout and length. Great read!
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Agreed, great interview. The person who came to my mind was The Most Interesting Man In The World.
John, please come to my house for dinner some time.
PROTIP (Score:5, Insightful)
For a disguise, use an old scratched up hardhat.
Re:PROTIP (Score:5, Interesting)
It is actually accurate. If you want to gain access to a place you dont belong, dress like a utility worker, most security will not even look at you twice if you have a clipboard.
When I used to do social engineering I gained access to many server rooms under the guise of a building maintenance guy looking for water leaks, they did not even question me taking photos.
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One of my friends had a sprinkler installation business he ran when we were in college at the University of Florida. Parking on campus was a nightmare, so he'd just drive his work truck into the middle of the lawn at the student union, lean a rake up against the truck and walk to class. Never had a problem.
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Similarly when in school, I would often park my beat-up old Honda right in the middle of campus in a construction zone. I never had a problem either (but I didn't do it often). It fit right in with the rest of the construction worker vehicles.
Re:PROTIP (Score:5, Interesting)
this knwoledge pre-dates burn notice.
Hell, I learned it quite well in my first job. I was doing after hours upgrades for a major department store. Since it affected the cash register network, one of the tasks was to get the address from every register before we start....so in a worst case the whole store could be set back up if need be (never happened).
What I noticed, walk up to a cashier and tell them you need to do something with a register, they will balk and want to call a manager. Walk up to a cash register and start pressing buttons, and looking at your clip board, and they don't say anything.
Walk though those back doors into the recieving area all nervous and looking around like you don't belong, and someone will come out of the woodwork to be up your ass in seconds. Push through the doors like you own the place and walk over to the nearest device with your clipboard.... and nobody has anything to say.
I would say its about 60% looking the part, and 40% acting confidently like you belong there.
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And they stole it from hackers in the 80's. Glad to see TV shows are stealing material from us old Hackers/Phreaks.
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I read it in Steal This Book - and it was hardly a new idea in the 60s.
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For a disguise, use an old scratched up hardhat.
Nobody will question a person wearing a hard had and an orange vest.
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I'm curious now, why is this the case?
Do workers typically get stuff dropped on their head often enough to scratch up the hardhat such that veterans are easily distinguished from newbies by the amount of hardhat damage? Or do they use the hardhat as an adhoc tool for certain situations, resulting in hardhat scratches? Do veterans just slam the hardhat around on some concrete to make it look more worn down to blend in with the rest of the crew?
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As an engineer, I can tell you that a) construction workers don't go out of their way to insult the engineer... green or no, we can make their life difficult b) hard-hats get scratched a lot because your eyes don't move up the extra two inches to correspond to the hard-hat height... My eyes tell me that my head should be clear of that scaffold bar... and yet, the hard-hat still smacks into it... c) hard hats get scratched due to method of storage... if you drop your hat on the floor repeatedly when you use
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nuts! (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:nuts! (Score:5, Funny)
Is it just me or this guy totally batshit crazy? Among other things, how many times do you have to be assaulted before you get rid of your crazy girlfriend(s)?
I have a secret to tell you. All girlfriends/wives are batshit crazy. It just takes varying degrees of pressure or stress or other factors to bring it out in them and when it does you better hope you survive or can escape!
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there's a ton of misogyny in that statement but the long/short of any relationship is that if there is extreme pressure/stress there will be extreme responses to that pressure/stress, which usually involve inducing more pressure/stress.
probably helps that if you decide you don't want that stress, you decide not to have a relationship as opposed to hating on that decision after it has been made, unless it's simply a bad relationship .
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If all you girlfriends and wives go crazy, the common denominator is you.
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Yea, but the normal ones are not usually down for polyamory.
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Yes but everyone is abnormal in some way, or at least everyone the least bit interesting. In the end its just like any other central lifestyle choice, most people who make it will not be compatible with you, so you just sort through them until you find one who is.
I was recently talking to a friend coming off a medium term relationship where they lived together, said how she constantly complained about him not making the bed.... didn't seem to get that this is a fundamental....if your habbits and hers don't
Re:nuts! (Score:4, Funny)
There's "yells at you to put the toilet seat down" crazy, and there's "shoot at your head" crazy. One is not a danger to your life and limb.
The other is a god damned honey badger in bed.
Lucky for me, my honey badger doesn't read /.
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Yep, it's all about the crazy pussy, few men can resist after the first hit.
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Yep, it's all about the crazy pussy, few men can resist after the first hit.
Sometimes even the most tasty and tightest pussy is not worth it if she tries to kill you no matter what!
Says Richard Branson, CEO of Virgin.
Re:nuts! (Score:4, Funny)
Hot / Smart / Sane -- Choose TWO
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The girlfriend in question (Score:5, Informative)
I hope this helps to answer your question
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http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2012/12/ff_mcafee3_large.jpg
I hope this helps to answer your question
My first thoughts seeing this picture were...
1) Ok she has large boobs... definetly a plus but then are they fake?
2) At least she isn't an anorexic woman weighing 80 pounds that would snap in half if you banged her in bed. Gotta have some meat on a woman to look healthy
3) Oh god help me.. she looks like a crazy batshit woman already when you look up at the face. The kind that is very jealous and over-protective of "her man" and would not think twice of beating the living shit out of him for not paying 100%
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Beauty... beholder... she definitely doesn't get my dick hard but she probably would if I were 67 and still wanted to have crazy sex.
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Sometimes, its the abuse that makes life worth living!
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Is it just me or this guy totally batshit crazy? Among other things, how many times do you have to be assaulted before you get rid of your crazy girlfriend(s)?
And if he is batshit crazy, how much of what he said is true, and how much is PR to keep him out of jail and to sell (sensationalize) his new book? I'd trust his responses rat spitting distances.
Re:nuts! (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:crazy chicks (Score:4, Insightful)
Probably not a coincidence (Score:2)
Samantha sounds like a real winner (Score:2)
I went back to Samantha's and my room for a few minutes to search Sam's luggage for weapons. There were too many good looking women at the hotel for my comfort. Samantha is extremely jealous and twice tried to stab me when she thought I was looking at another woman...
Chills ran up my spine as I imagined Samantha sweet talking the hotel security guard into lending her his gun after seeing me glance at the undulating derrière of a striking Peruvian woman an hour or so earlier.
Yeah, that's someone you want to have around on the regular.
Re:Samantha sounds like a real winner (Score:5, Funny)
Actually they do have a value. I dated a very young (I was 39 she was 20) latino woman that was over the top nuts, scared for my life nuts. But in the sack..... Porn stars are no talent amateurs compared to a completely batshit crazy woman.
That reminds me, It's probably time I need to move again so she doesnt find me.
Bugging the belize government? (Score:2)
I missed the question thread, but:
How much time did it take to go through the laptop intercepts every day?
Is your house in Belize for sale?
Have you tried the Fish & Chips at the Frying Scotsman?
I have a new life goal (Score:3, Funny)
It's to become a crazy old man and John McAfee is my template.
Just "Wow"... (Score:2)
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Well, by his own admission, they aren't made of steel; or are a very soft and hollow steel. One was crushed with a hammer in 1974 by mexican drug lords...
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When you make a ton of money smuggling drugs you can do things like "happen into the AV business."
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Hello,
Yes, that's pretty much exactly what happened. John had a few other businesses he was trying at the time. This one worked out.
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky
his replies left this on my mind (Score:2)
Reading his replies left this going through my head: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7l8dx-h8M [youtube.com]
Kinda sad (Score:4, Insightful)
It seems as though, since no one asked the question "how crazy are you?", he's simply steered all of his responses into answering it anyway. It also seems like half of what he does is only valuable to him if he can tell other people about it. Why does he care? It reminds me of a 12 year old bragging about the time he stole a car or slept with a teacher. They probably didn't happen, and even if they did, it's childish to broadcast it. And this guy's 67? Agh.
You couldn't make it up .. (Score:2)
an-MDPV-Question [bluelight.ru]
Stuffmonger Postings [johnmcafeestory.com]
--
`Once a guy stood all day shaking bugs from his hair'
Allison Adonicio simply crazy? (Score:2, Insightful)
hooray for chickenshit journalism (Score:2)
slashdot proves once again - softball horse shit gets views.
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You are thinking of Hans Reiser?
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If we assume that he did do that, then answering the question would be kind of stupid.
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Why would they even bother asking? Honestly, if he has said no a billion times before now, what makes anyone think he would say yes for slashdot?
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I think he was pretty clear about the fact that he's not involved with the antivirus business anymore, and that anything that has happened to it for the past 21 years is not something he's responsible for.
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Re:Just cut'n'pasted, or did this get read first (Score:5, Funny)
There's quite a few typos in this interview. Did the editors READ it, or did they just cut-n-paste into the "post" form? Can anyone advise what differentiates Slashdot from an amateur's blog?
Most blogs can handle unicode. Slashdot can't.
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Progress! We're back in the 1990's.
Cool beans.
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It's barely a blip in the ocean of associations - madman, paranoid, child molester, murderer, drug addict, unstable, liar, to name but a few
Wow, whoda thought poor spelling would move to the top of that list?
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That previous life also explains why he managed to keep calm. Compared to his experiences from the 70s that episode in belize was a walk in the park.
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I like how he talks about Samantha's attempts to stab and bludgeon him like it's no big deal O_O
Re:Oh my (Score:5, Insightful)
What 67 year old (even a rich one) can attract the attention of a woman 1/3 his age?
A rich one.
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Does he know any women who are not trying to kill him?
Know? Or ... know?
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No.
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Who?
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Me?
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Couldn't be!
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So I wonder what went wrong at McAfee afterwards.
Re:i like the part (Score:4, Informative)
So I wonder what went wrong at McAfee afterwards.
I would bet that someone with poor business sense and a high degree of greed got hold of a successful product with 87% market share, and started thinking about how they could make as much money as possible with it.
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So I wonder what went wrong at McAfee afterwards.
He, against all odds, built a company of very good programmers who produced a very good product. When it comes to security, trust is everything, and the brand built a lot of trust out there. Some vultures came along, bought him out (that was what went wrong, if you had to pick a moment) and then started cashing in all the trust by turning McAfee antivirus into a money machine, not bothering with conventionally ethical business practices or even keeping decent coders around.
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The new owners didn't value top quality engineers, and they combined Enterprise features with consumer features and upda selling you products all while trying to keep a line between consumer and enterprise. That along with wanting people to see the presence on the comuter.
So bad management.
Too much Bath Salts ... (Score:2)
reference [joshnagel.com]
"McAfee is the worst kind of scumbag -- arrogant, self-important and someone who believes his above-average IQ will allow him to dupe the masses for a lifetime. I've met people like him countless times, and their biggest mistake is they take for granted the idea that no one is smart enough to compete in their psychological chess game."
"For the most part, con men like him are proven right, as they tend to have a gut-wrenching success rate,
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To make things worse, I remember Symantec improved it's resource consumption quite dramatically in the 2008 release, leaving McAfee in the dust.
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Re:Paedophile, not a hero (Score:5, Insightful)
If she's 18 in 2012 then 16 in 2010 sounds reasonable. No problem there.
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Ehm, did you actually read the interview? It's not his antivirus, 21 years ago he sold that business off.
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