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Interviews: Ask Fark Founder Drew Curtis a Question 127

For many, the day would not be complete without checking Fark.com for the latest funny or weird news. Inspired by the numerous links to interesting news stories he'd send to friends every morning, Drew Curtis created Fark in 1999. By 2009 it was one of the top 100 English language websites with 3-4 million unique visitors, and 60 million page views per month. Recently Drew has been in the news after he announced that he was running for governor in his home state of Kentucky with his wife Heather as his running mate. Calling himself an independent "citizen candidate," the campaign website says: "We have a theory that we’re about to see a huge change in how elections and politics work. Across the country, we have seen regular citizens stepping up and challenging the status quo built by political parties and career politicians. They have been getting closer and closer to victory and, here in Kentucky, we believe we have a chance to win and break the political party stronghold for good." We'll be checking back in with Drew as the race heats up, but for now he's agreed to answer any questions you may have. As usual, ask as many as you'd like, but please, one per post.
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Interviews: Ask Fark Founder Drew Curtis a Question

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  • Duke (Score:4, Funny)

    by tgetzoya ( 827201 ) on Wednesday April 29, 2015 @02:07PM (#49579131)
    We all know that Duke sucks, but would you please elaborate?
  • How effective would you say the filters have been for Fark?

  • by Anonymous Coward

    It used to be huge, but then it died. Do you blame yourself? Whose fault was it?

  • How much longer can a site that's largely based around the same handful of tired old memes remain relevant?
  • are you leaving out the hope?
  • by TWX ( 665546 ) on Wednesday April 29, 2015 @02:21PM (#49579237)
    Drew,

    Fark used to have some of the best Photoshop contests, both in terms of what people came up with (thinking of the Lukket fake Rand Corporation computer as an example), and in the way that the in-line display and voting for the entries worked. What would you like to do with these going forward to get more involvement for these contests?
    • I think one problem is that a lot of the old participants don't do it any more, for whatever reason. Photoshop contests used to regularly pull in 80 or 100 comments or so, now those are the outliers. You could go into one and expect to see 10 or 15 people making entries, but it seems like those people have moved on for whatever reason and haven't really been replaced.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        I can tell you why I left. In my day I was a major contributor to their Photoshop contests. I submitted thousands of entries and had well over 100 wins. What happened was a steady decline of the old users, many of whom were very prolific, and had skills beyond the realm of Photoshop. You see, the contests on Fark are really only part of the equation. Fark doesn't track stats like votes, win percentages, etc. For that, we needed a third party stat tracking site. There were several such places over the years.

      • Largely, they don't do it because the odds are carefully stacked in favor of those who paid for entry. With a TotalFark membership, you get to see the contests and prep your entries ahead of time, and because the voting happens from the moment their entries are posted *and* the entries are always shown chronologically, the winners are almost always among the first entries, and almost always from paying TotalFark subscribers. Which rather defeats the point of pretending it is a contest.

        If it was actually a
  • Mister Drew Curtis, i am a Greek, and since this Slashdot's "Interviews: Ask Fark Founder Drew Curtis a Question" is a Slashvertisment* for your political campaign actually, i would liked to ask you: do you understand the irony Sir?

    * Slashvertisment:

    For many, the day would not be complete without checking Fark.com for the latest funny or weird news. Inspired by the numerous links to interesting news stories he'd send to friends every morning, Drew Curtis created Fark in 1999. By 2009 it was one of the top 100 English language websites with 3-4 million unique visitors, and 60 million page views per month. Recently Drew has been in the news after he announced that he was running for governor in his home state of Kentucky with his wife Heather as his running mate. Calling himself an independent "citizen candidate," the campaign website says: "We have a theory that we’re about to see a huge change in how elections and politics work. Across the country, we have seen regular citizens stepping up and challenging the status quo built by political parties and career politicians. They have been getting closer and closer to victory and, here in Kentucky, we believe we have a chance to win and break the political party stronghold for good." We'll be checking back in with Drew as the race heats up, but for now he's agreed to answer any questions you may have. As usual, ask as many as you'd like, but please, one per post.

    • by rwa2 ( 4391 ) *

      Sounds like Drew will fit right in with Congress, where we have senators who never sent email sitting on the technology committee.
      http://www.addictinginfo.org/2... [addictinginfo.org]

      While I'm saddened that Drew has had to "clean up" Fark of its foobies and more aggressively moderate racist photoshop themes and pics, I applaud more tech geeks taking the plunge into politics. Here's hoping for a campaign that's more transparently data-driven by the people being represented than money-driven by shadow financiers.

  • My question (Score:5, Funny)

    by MobileTatsu-NJG ( 946591 ) on Wednesday April 29, 2015 @02:25PM (#49579271)

    Mr. Curtis, your campaign seems to have the momentum of a runaway freight train. Why are you so popular?

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Drew, what is the worst possible thing that a political opponent could dig up on you - what don't you want people to know?

    • Drew, what is the worst possible thing that a political opponent could dig up on you - what don't you want people to know?

      Phrase it in the form of a partisan attack ad.

  • Say your political campaign is successful. Do you have a plan in place to stop one of the "two" parties from co-opting your message and claiming to be a part of the same movement? I'm thinking Tea Party -> GOP and 'Occupy' -> Democrats. Both only 'sorta' worked (TheTea Party was much more successfully assimilated IMO), yet ultimately were co-opted.

  • Bar Towel? (Score:5, Funny)

    by show me altoids ( 1183399 ) on Wednesday April 29, 2015 @02:41PM (#49579421)
    Any word on when the Guiness bar towels are due to be delivered?
  • Litigation (Score:5, Interesting)

    by bazmail ( 764941 ) on Wednesday April 29, 2015 @03:08PM (#49579663)
    Hi Drew, what was the closest you ever came to shutting down FARK, due to litigation, threats from idiots you made famous, boredom, $$$ shortage etc?
    • Nobody cares about the almosts, we care about the final nail in the coffin, which will never come as long as the TotaLParkin losers and TFDorks had any life savings left to Western Union to Ol' Kentucky.
  • Fark isn't relevant (Score:2, Interesting)

    by fleabay ( 876971 )
    My question for the fark guy, erm Drew so-and-whatever.. How much did you pay slashdot for this 'interview'?
  • You and Ms. Curtis deserve tremendous credit for such a worthy effort. Thanks on behalf of US citizens eager for change -- or at least a demonstration that change is possible. Although some ambiguity remains, your site shows transparency, the application of sound business principles, a close examination of successful policies incorporated elsewhere, creativity, and an open ear for discussion from all sides. -- Which of the following is your greatest challenge to getting elected and how do you surmount it
  • Mods killed it
    Why bother?

    • This gubernatorial race is really just a ploy for attention to get someone, anyone, to go back to Fark after the pro-censorship PC police took it over.

      Funny, because it used to be a decent place when it wasn't rife with PC nanny-staters.

      You censor speech, you get routed around, end of story.

  • Culture Change (Score:5, Interesting)

    by eepok ( 545733 ) on Wednesday April 29, 2015 @03:50PM (#49580003) Homepage

    Drew,

    There was a time when Fark Boobies links were mixed in with news links. Then it became its own tab. Then it was reborn as "Foobies"-- a wholly separate site. More recently, a strict "Anti-Misogyny" standard on Fark discussions was implemented which included the dis-allowance of the use of the word "rape" except in the academic sense, dis-allowing the use of demeaning terms in describing women, and suggesting that a female victim of a crime was somehow asking to be victimized.

    Examples of dis-allowed uses include the meme "40 lbs. Box of Rape" (http://goo.gl/XipVh1), references to the Whoopi Goldberg differentiation between "rape" and "rape rape" (http://goo.gl/u3YDuW), and Todd Akin's "legitimate rape" gaffe (http://goo.gl/dyxpy).

    To say that the change was met with disdain would be an understatement. The ensuing threads were filled with battles back and forth between those who assert that such references and jocularity is proof a genuine hatred of women (misogyny) while others assert that lumping together edgy attempts at comedy with the genuine hatred of women is prejudicial and incredibly offensive.

    Given Fark's historic culture of pushing/punching the boundaries of political correctness (see: "Welcome to Fark" memes) where almost nothing is so sacred that it cannot be joked about (see: "Window seat, please" memes), why was this decision made? Why were so many genuinely non-misogynistic actions/comments/memes lumped in with that term?

    My partner and I have discussed the change at length. We're both fans of audacity humor, so we actually "get a kick out of the replies" (http://goo.gl/a6xyao). Together, we came up with the following potential rationales. Which did we get right? Which didn't we?

    1. I got older and my tastes have changed. I don't want to run a site that goes counter to my own sensibilities.
    2. I received pressure from external organizations (other sites, special interests, advertisers).
    3. I want to grow the site to be more inclusive of people who would be offended by such jokes.
    4. I'm running for public office and Fark.com, if not cleaned up, would destroy my campaign.
    5. I've received overwhelming negative feedback regarding the state of Fark comments and the numbers supporting a change greatly outnumber those who didn't like the change.
    6. I actually believe that everyone who jokes about women hates women and they should be stopped.

    • by XO ( 250276 )

      Disdain? The Internet as a whole has been applauding and attempting to follow, where it can.

      • by eepok ( 545733 )

        It really doesn't matter what the "internet as a whole" applauds when dealing with the internal matters of an individual community. Different communities have different sensibilities and priorities.

        Scenario:
        The Slashdot community values discussions based on science and good logic. Imagine that Slashdot declares that comments are no longer allowed to question the scientific validity of anti-GMO or pro-Vegan articles. Everyone who questions the assertions of PETA and the anti-GMO crowd will be officially labe

  • by sandbagger ( 654585 ) on Wednesday April 29, 2015 @04:05PM (#49580135)

    --- Discussions on Fark don't go to infinity and beyond anymore. Is the attempt to make Fark more PC a response to that or a consequence?
    --- You're HTML 2.0 compliant, it seems. Ever planning on updating the back end?
    --- A few times a year there's a post to TFD asking for ideas on how to improve things. Nothing changes: why?
    --- The ethos of Fark used to be say anything --- smash any idols ---just be funny doing it. Has moving away from that basically made Fark no different from a lot of other discussion/aggregation sites?

  • by Megaweapon ( 25185 ) on Wednesday April 29, 2015 @04:45PM (#49580445) Homepage

    You have in the past (and probably still do) ban people from posting from you website, including paying customers, in a fashion that makes the users not aware of their status. Given that this is fraud, do you plan on implementing any sort of Shadowbanning as governor? Perhaps billing constituents for state services without providing them?

    • by Khyber ( 864651 )

      Better question - why aren't you getting word about this out to the people in Kentucky? If he is committing fraud as you say, then why the hell aren't we letting everyone in Kentucky know and fucking up his election bid this very second?

  • by ITRambo ( 1467509 ) on Wednesday April 29, 2015 @04:54PM (#49580511)
    Drew was instrumental in raising awareness that television news is designed to scare people into watching it with teasers that are titillating, BREAKING NEWS (when it's not) scrolls, and far more. Quite a stunt to pull off some years back and I respect him for it. FARK was built with humor in mind and early on was mined by late night talk shows for content. My question is: what will you do to get a skeptical, and possibly hostile, media to present you as a serious candidate?
  • by Khyber ( 864651 ) <techkitsune@gmail.com> on Wednesday April 29, 2015 @05:09PM (#49580629) Homepage Journal

    When are you going to get rid of your SJW mods and go back to what made Fark worth a FUCK in the first place?

  • by RyoShin ( 610051 ) <<tukaro> <at> <gmail.com>> on Wednesday April 29, 2015 @05:30PM (#49580759) Homepage Journal

    I was a regular Fark user for some time, and hopped on TotalFark. However, over time I got annoyed with the "cafes" and other social cliques, and found 4chan much more to my liking because moderation was lax (at the time), focusing on spam and obvious trolls, with little censorship.

    While I haven't used Fark regularly for years now, I do have some friends from my time there that are active participants, and my understanding from them and other sources [slashdot.org] is that the posting standards on Fark have gotten even stricter. How much of the moderation standards are due to your personal views (or views of your moderators), how much due to legal concerns, and how much due to member concerns (trolling/stalking/aggravation, keeping various wordfilters to make it more SFW, etc.).

    As a followup question, have you ever considered a moderation system like of Slashdot?

    (As an unrelated question, if you won your bid for governor but a candidate came along with a better name, would you resign and have them take your place?)

  • Dear Drew,

    HELP I'M STUCK IN SOMETHING CALLED HUNCH HOUSE AND I CAN'T FIND MY WAY OUT i killed the hunch but theres no exits and i need to be in class in 15 minutes and im out of sp from all of this shouting will somebody pleeeeease help me?

    Sincerely,
    Confused in Chaos

  • Like anything would change the status quo.
  • The most important question, why would anyone be stupid enough to think running a government like a business works. In small business under capitalism, only 1 in 10 succeed, by far the majority go bankrupt 90%. So what, try out new government services only to have the majority fail is somehow sound. That some how trial and error are preferable to careful but admittedly expensive research. Perhaps government needs to set up multiple branches of the same service so they can compete and one wins while the res

  • Why do you appease individuals of the SJW crowd, namely Chelsea van Valkenberg (you know who she is, but I can't mention that on Fark), by strictly enforcing their narratives, even in the light of truth?

  • I work for Drew Curtis. So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies. Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.
    • by Khyber ( 864651 )

      You do not work for Drew.

      And if you do, I've got enough Internet Archive history of FARK.com to show you out as the fucking lying scumbag you are.

      Wanna dance?

  • by muridae ( 966931 ) on Thursday April 30, 2015 @09:44AM (#49584989)

    who is fb- the father of?

    No, my actual question is "can you elaborate on the reason why freep-impact was asked to stop posting in politics threads?"

  • Whatever happened with Darrell Phillips?

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